There's a huge gap, between people who have access to the kinds of outreach that scientists think are effective, and the actual people who can attend. And so what I really loved about Dragon Con's parade, is that, and actually this is my commentary, but people hopped on the train, and they arrived. It wasn't some deep registration process, or some huge vetting. It was just, "If you can make it, show up here." And I think the value of that, is not lost on someone like me, who's really thinking about science engagement. Like I said, it may not be the learning process that we're all dreaming of, but that relationship, and trust will take time, and an investment from different organizations to build. And so if I only show up in your neighborhood one time, and try to teach you about science you should know, then you're going to look at me like, "Who are you? Why do you matter?" But if you can see me repeatedly making investments in different spaces, in different environments, even a branding principle, is the more you see a brand, the more likely you are to trust it, or to recognize it. And so, in the science engagement space, a lot of the white savior science communicators don't seem to get, that underserved communities are not grateful for you showing up, and trying to teach us. In the instances where you can be present, where you can contribute without any expectation of reciprocity to a community, I think that those only help to strengthen the reputation you have. And so, if I were making a case for people with the money to spend on this stuff, I would absolutely encourage them. Even if it is providing providing a booth, or providing labor for a booth, or if it's walking in a parade, those kinds of things add up to ultimately a trust, that communities can place, and you will make them recognize you. Sorry. I'm very passionate about this. Because I just see a lot of science communication that just drops into a community, and then runs out when they feel they fulfill their own personal mission, without really listening or finding other ways to be present for these communities.