those who are facing the obstacles or challenge are closest to the solution and know best the solution. So being somebody who feels like a little bit of an outsider to this science outreach field, in some ways, or in a lot of ways. So I guess the one thing that wasn't spoken about in this dialog was, and maybe it's because there's just knowledge of it beforehand, but it's a big problem that we're trying to solve for, it's how to get science out into communities and received by different communities. I think that I would approach that in centering the voices of those who are at the end of that solution. So the young people in the room who should have that access to sciences should be gaining knowledge of science. So I just think about how much as we think about like, what does this look like when it's scaled or expanded or replicate this outreach? I think a lot about not just thinking, just trying to listen to the voices of the young people and how they react to this sort of outreach or just more broadly like where... I don't know, Rick, if this happened to anywhere along your process, but have you ever sat in a room with kids from the Dwight community, or from the New Haven community and just ask broad questions about what are the best ways to engage you around science? Is it coming to a fall festival? Is it coming into your classroom? Is it doing something in the neighborhood? Really centering those voices because that's the solution that you're solving for.