the families and the young people interacted in a really positive way. I think the step further to that though is justice. You could react in a positive way, you could have great engagement, it could be fun, I did science I learned something new but there is this sentiment and I just share it personally as a black woman who was a black child of being able to see and experience things and look across the table and say wow, that person looks like me and is doing science, or wow, that person looks like me and knows all these things. There's more of a I can do that, I can do this, I can be this when you're able to see people who look like you.